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Beyond BLEU & ROUGE — Evaluating LLMs and AI Systems

Talkat Conf42 Machine Learning 2025 · on Thursday, 2025-05-08· [machine-learning, testing]
linkedin:alok-g-ranjan
slides:none on file

Claims that BLEU/ROUGE break on real dialogue (one-word correct answer “34” gets BLEU 0.016) and proposes concrete replacements: an fact score pipeline that breaks outputs into atomic facts and NLI-checks them, a BERT‑embedding BIRD metric for semantic match, a Langbite bias testing flow, and model‑graded evaluation (GVAL/GAL) that correlates best with humans. Examples include an OpenAI Eval run over 25 Spider samples yielding 20/25 correct (80%) and retriever stats like GPT‑3.5 ≈92% contextual position.

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  1. 0:00Introduction and Session Overview
  2. 0:49Speaker Introductions
  3. 1:47Evaluating AI Systems: Beyond Traditional Metrics
  4. 2:28Key Dimensions of AI Evaluation
  5. 4:50Limitations of Traditional Metrics: BLEU and ROUGE
  6. 6:16Real-World Examples Highlighting Metric Flaws
  7. 10:17Understanding N-gram Overlap
  8. 13:12Modern Evaluation Frameworks
  9. 14:44Factual Accuracy and Fact Score
  10. 20:32Addressing Toxicity and Bias in AI
  11. 23:31Human-Centric Evaluation Methods
  12. 24:35Conclusion and Transition
  13. 25:38Introduction to Evaluation Shifts
  14. 25:50Strengths of Large Language Models in Evaluation
  15. 26:43Automated Evaluation: Importance and Benefits
  16. 27:24Key Technologies in Automated Evaluation
  17. 28:35Deep Dive: OpenAI Evolve Framework
  18. 32:40Generative Evaluation (GE) Explained
  19. 35:44Evaluation of Retrieval-Augmented Generation (REG) Systems
  20. 38:19Human Judgment vs. Automated Metrics
  21. 41:23Building Robust Evaluation Ecosystems
  22. 43:05Real-World Scenario: Evaluating Customer Service AI
  23. 45:22Conclusion and Future of Evaluation
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