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A case against semantic dependencies

name:Ori Lahav
linkedin:ori-lahav
slides:none on file

Argues that the proposed three-step C/C++ fix—derive a global semantic dependency from all candidate executions then apply RC11 consistency—fails on concrete litmus tests: a three-thread X Y Z litmus shows whether F can be printed flips depending on optimizations like redundant-load introduction and forwarding, so the dependency relation cannot be thread-local and must know the consistency predicate. Compilers (LLVM/GCC) perform those transforms, so a correct account needs dynamic, consistency-aware machinery such as promising semantics or event-structure models.

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  1. 0:00Introduction
  2. 3:52Three-step memory model
  3. 7:21Semantic dependency examples
  4. 11:59Thread-local dependency impossible
  5. 14:52Dynamic dependencies limits
  6. 17:18Load introduction issue
  7. 20:49Non-atomics modular reasoning
  8. 21:32C++ memory model challenges
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