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State of Lightning Privacy

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Lightning privacy currently offers Bolt12 blinded paths for sender/receiver anonymity and works with LDK enabling onion message forwarding, but notable attacks remain. Probing reveals channel balances; HTLC limits and upfront-fee proposals aim to curb that. Timing correlation from forwarding nodes yields deanonymization—simulations show one central node sees up to 37% of payments and four colluding nodes 72%. AS‑level observers are worse: top five AS see ~80%, AWS ~34%. Ongoing mitigations include receiver‑side delays, MTU message padding (1500‑byte proposal) and cover traffic.

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  1. 0:00Lightning privacy model
  2. 1:07Privacy properties promised
  3. 3:26Bolt 12 and blinded paths
  4. 5:36Onion message forwarding
  5. 6:21Unresolved privacy issues
  6. 7:06Balance discovery attacks
  7. 9:40Timing attacks on privacy
  8. 16:40AS-level surveillance risks
  9. 21:23Countermeasures for AS attacks
  10. 22:52Work in progress on mitigations
  11. 24:41Receiver-side delays for privacy
  12. 25:01Message padding research
  13. 27:11Cover traffic and future directions
  14. 28:15Conclusion and prioritize privacy
  15. 29:38Q&A on AS attacks and Tor
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